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RAC Meeting Minutes (December 18, 2003)

Quarterly Meeting

Agency Updates:

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
Welcome to Don Sharp - selected as new RAC technical representative for CDC.

DOD Veterinary Services Agency (VSA) and U.S. Army Center for Health Promotion and Preventive Medicine (CHPPM)
Eric Torring (DOD VSA) – nothing to report
Brandolyn Thran, (CHPPM) – nothing to report

EPA Office of Water
Stephen Schaub

FDA/CFSAN
Dick Whiting

Marianne Miliotis

Wes Long

FDA Center for Veterinary Medicine
Barry Hooberman

NIH National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID)
Robert Hall

In addition, the Regional Centers for Excellence (RCEs) were awarded:

These two initiatives will provide a valuable mechanism to get needed research accomplished that is not suitable for grant mechanisms.

USDA Agricultural Research Service (ARS)
Andy Hwang, works in the Predictive Microbiology and Risk Assessment group at ARS Eastern Regional Research Center

USDA Cooperative State Research Education, and Extension Service (CSREES)
Margaret Venuto

USDA Food Safety and Inspection Service (FSIS)
Peg Coleman

Carl Schroeder

Welcome to David Goldblatt - a new AAAS Risk Policy Fellow at FSIS - working on peer review, the ECRA revision, and Salmonella spp. risk assessment and performance standard activities.

Welcome to Abdel Kadry. Abdul wants to explore how the RAC can help identify human resources to evaluate RA. Can the RAC help? (Suggestion from Margaret Venuto to use CSREES database of reviewers).

USDA Office of Risk Assessment and Cost Benefit Analysis (ORACBA)
Michael McElvaine

Workgroup Updates:

Dose-response workgroup
Report from Lead - Peg Coleman (FSIS)
The RAC DRWG expanded its membership and scope for FY 2004. New participants include: Dave Tribble and Pat Guerry, US Naval Medical Research Center; Lynda Kelley and Neal Golden, FSIS Office of Public Health and Science; Steve Anderson and Dennis Kopecko of FDA Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research; Rich Raybourne, FDA Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition; and Steve Schaub EPA Office of Water. The scope in 2003 was a more general compilation of data on animal and human models for dose-response for many enteropathogens. In 2004, the group selected campylobacteriosis as its first case study to develop in more detail. The group met on October 28 and December 17 to discuss human, ferret, and in vitro data for campylobacteriosis. Future seminars are planned in the next two quarters to develop additional case studies that will be compiled into manuscript format by work group members in summer 2004. The goals of the manuscript are to incorporate additional mechanistic data into dose-response models to more realistically describe variability in each aspect of the disease triangle (host, pathogen, and environment, and interactions).

Data quality workgroup
Report from lead - Carl Schroeder (FSIS)
- After discussions at the RAC summer meeting, a workgroup was formed – brainstormed four questions or tasks

  1. Summary of OMB guidelines
  2. Collection of web site links for agencies with data quality guidelines
  3. Summary of data needs for Clearinghouse web site
  4. Development of a RAC document based on member agencies’ data quality guidelines

-The workgroup produced a 5-6 page document which was made available at the last meeting.

-At the last RAC Policy Council meeting, October 1, 2003, the Policy council recommended a change in the focus of the workgoup. Carl recommends that the group meet with Carol Maczka and Bob Buchanan to better articulate objectives.

- Workgroup will reconvene after clarification from policy council.

Risk-Risk workgroup
Workgroup lead is Elke Jensen
Report by Margaret Venuto
Workgroup members include: Margaret Venuto (CSREES), Abdel Kadry (FSIS), Mark Walderhaug (CFSAN), Angelo Turturro (NCTR), Stephen Schaub (EPA OW).
-Workgroup meeting held November 14, 2003. Objectives and goals were to be drafted and sent to the rest of the group for review and comments:
-Workgroup discussions included:

-rename group?
-Balancing chemical vs. microbial risk
-Addressing x-agency issues relative to risk - risk comparisons
-Agency experiences
-Common issues germane
-How should results be presented
-Seeking a series of presentations based on agency experiences
-Concept paper – useful to those who want to develop risk-risk comparisons
-Steve named a group who is interested in talking,
-EPA NCEA may be able to provide some insight in comparative risk

Data gap analysis workgroup –
Workgroup lead is Mark Tamplin. Mark wants to step down as the lead. Andy Hwang may take over as lead.
-Group revised spreadsheets and getting it ready for posting on the CH website. Hope to present at meetings to get the word out to researchers.

Peer review workgroup (PRWG)
Workgroup co- leads are Mary Bartholomew (FDA/CVM) and Janell Kause (USDA/FSIS); update presented today by Marianne
-Summary of September 30, 2003 Peer Review workshop is currently being reviewed by the Policy Council co-chairs.
-Working on an outline for the discussion paper that will be the deliverable of the work group. There have been several meetings to discuss the issue. Next meeting planned for Jan 13.
-Looking at possible joint symposium on peer review and data quality. Decided to wait until OMB guidelines are final before holding the meeting and finalizing the peer review discussion paper. (Regulatory agencies received an extension through January for responding to the OMB bulletin.)
-Nov 18, NAS had workshop on regulatory peer review was attended by many members of the PRWG.

Future presentations on Sampling

Marianne and Wes gave an overview. Sampling plan design impacts the utility of data for risk assessments. It was recommended at the October 1, 2003 RAC meeting to have presentations to help us understand the scope and impact of the problem, possibly as an all-day meeting.

Through the discussion, at least four different issues were identified, and several audiences.

Audiences:

  1. Risk Assessors who try to use data from surveys, surveillance, and studies to make predictions about the status quo and the likelihood of future events.
  2. Researchers who design and conduct sampling plans or programs
  3. Risk Managers who must respond to limited data (e.g., when only 1 positive sample is obtained in an e coli outbreak, what does this say about the other 1 million servings?)

Issues:

  1. Methodologies – e.g. MPN method and individual sample size (quantity)
  2. Statistical validity
  3. Sampling Strategies - representativeness and sample size (how many samples need to be taken?)
  4. Dose reconstruction

Discussion by RAC included mention of a number of existing sampling programs, for example:

-Because of the many issues and perspectives of potential audiences if the presentations were to be held as a public meeting, a suggestion was made to develop a scoping paper for the RAC Policy Council by the March meeting.
-,The RAC might want to come up with an issues paper ahead of time to help frame the meeting.

-A discussion also arose about whether this group really ought to be a part of the data quality workgroup, since the issues are inter-twined. Both use the same conceptual analysis – what do you need to get a good answer that you can rely on? It was decided, however, to keep it as a separate work group at least for the present.
-A possible name for the workgroup is the “Data Utility Workgroup.”
-Possible Workgroup volunteers:

Mary Bartholomew (CVM perhaps)
Peg Coleman (FSIS)
John Newland (CFSAN)
Michael McElvaine (ORACBA)
Steve Schaub (EPA OW)
Andy Hwang (ARS)
Brandolyn Thran, DOD/CHPPM

Presentations:

Carol Maczka, USDA/FSIS, RAC policy council co-chair, gave a presentation on “The USDA Food Safety Risk Assessment Committee.”

John Painter, CDC gave a presentation on “Allocating the burden of Foodborne illness by food commodity- the role of outbreak reports”

In attendance:

Peg Coleman, USDA/FSIS
David Goldblatt, USDA/FSIS
Robert Hall, NIH/NIAID
Barry Hooberman, FDA/CVM
Andy Hwang, USDA/ARS/ERRC
Abdel Kadry, USDA/FSIS
Wes Long, FDA/CFSAN
Michael McElvaine, USDA/ORACBA*
Marianne Miliotis, FDA/CFSAN
Stephen Schaub, EPA/OW
Carl Schroeder, USDA/FSIS
Don Sharp, CDC
Brandolyn Thran, DOD/CHPPM
Erik Torring, DOD/VSA
Margaret Venuto USDA/CSREES
Richard Whiting, FDA/CFSAN

* Attended by conference call

 

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